Peer Reviewed Papers Coming!

[performedge 0]

Hey guys, it's been awhile.

 

As most of you know, the rant of evos has always been "why don't creos publish their scientific work?"

 

And as most of you know, many papers are beginning to slip though the cracks and get published. Especially related to ID. The only problem is that they are so sporadic that the scientific community basically ignores them.

 

But I just wanted you all to know that a historical event is coming soon at a major university within the next six months. (some insider information). A substantial number of papers will be presented, all peer reviewed, and all challenging neo Darwin theory. The evidence is now shifting at the micro level, and the science community is going to have to deal with it. This event will probably be newsworthy and will eventually be the beginning of the end of neo-Darwinianism.

 

Now please don't misunderstand me. Populations of organisms do change over time, and natural selection does happen. These concepts will be substantiated. What will be eventually falsified is that organisms can evolve "upwardly' with fitness increases over time. The evidence is now becoming overwhelming and the books will have to be rewritten.

 

No more mice from hay bales! No more flies from rotting meat! No more birds from dinos! No more whales from dog like mammals! No more monkey men! Hallelujah.

 

But keep in mind, this is not the end of our battle. The aliens are coming!

[AFJ 33]

Hey guys, it's been awhile. 

 

As most of you know, the rant of evos has always been "why don't creos publish their scientific work?"

 

And as most of you know, many papers are beginning to slip though the cracks and get published.  Especially related to ID.  The only problem is that they are so sporadic that the scientific community basically ignores them.

 

But I just wanted you all to know that a historical event is coming soon at a major university within the next six months.  (some insider information).  A substantial number of papers will be presented, all peer reviewed, and all challenging neo Darwin theory.  The evidence is now shifting at the micro level, and the science community is going to have to deal with it.  This event will probably be newsworthy and will eventually be the beginning of the end of neo-Darwinianism.

 

Now please don't misunderstand me.  Populations of organisms do change over time, and natural selection does happen.  These concepts will be substantiated.  What will be eventually falsified is that organisms can evolve "upwardly' with fitness increases over time.  The evidence is now becoming overwhelming and the books will have to be rewritten.

 

No more mice from hay bales!  No more flies from rotting meat!  No more birds from dinos!  No more whales from dog like mammals! No more monkey men!  Hallelujah.

 

But keep in mind, this is not the end of our battle.  The aliens are coming!

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Interesting. I think ID is really as far as education will go though. Unless we have a Holy Ghost revival in this nation.

 

Are any of these papers online?

[Mankind 1]

This is good. We need more studies on the capabilities of evolution because multiple changes have to take affect at the same time for a creature to go from say water to land adaptation. Has anyone seen evolution do more than one change at a time?

 

I think that part of the problem is most biology evolutionists accept evolution to be true without question and they don’t test it to see if evolution can produce a man, or a monkey. The standard answer is, small steps lead to big changes, but has that been verified? Richard Lenski’s long term e.Coli experiment has produced 50,000 generations and no big changes have been noted, they are basically still e.Coli with some biochemistry changes but no morphology or anatomy changes.

[Seek123 0]

I've been hearing quite a bit about the ID movement. It's exciting to me, though there is a mighty slim chance, I remain hopeful that this could be a start for the eyes to begin opening in the scientific community.

 

Richard Lenski’s long term e.Coli experiment has produced 50,000 generations and no big changes have been noted, they are basically still e.Coli with some biochemistry changes but no morphology or anatomy changes.

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Exactly, I was pointed to this experiment by an evolutionist in the effort to prove to me that speciation is proof of macro-evolution. I basically told him the same thing, the E.Coli didn't even bring about a new genus. I'm hoping that as this experiment continues 'bacteria' will start to expose the TOE arguement to the future fallacy and illustrate the limits of the 'kind' arguement that creationists have been using all along.

[Bex 3]

Interesting.  I think ID is really as far as education will go though.  Unless we have a Holy Ghost revival in this nation. 

 

Are any of these papers online?

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I agree with this. I believe, unless the Holy Spirit awakens and enlightens this world, even the belief in I.D. will be subject to the worldy man's ideology.

[jason777 1]

I agree with this. I believe, unless the Holy Spirit awakens and enlightens this world, even the belief in I.D. will be subject to the worldy man's ideology.

Take the Lord's word and a former P*rn*gr*phy addicts testimony; "In the last days there will come scoffers each seeking after his own lust." It's that lust which makes men willing reject the truth for vain pleasure.

 

 

 

Enjoy.

[Bex 3]

I agree with this. I believe, unless the Holy Spirit awakens and enlightens this world, even the belief in I.D. will be subject to the worldy man's ideology.

Take the Lord's word and a former P*rn*gr*phy addicts testimony; "In the last days there will come scoffers each seeking after his own lust." It's that lust which makes men willing reject the truth for vain pleasure.

Enjoy.

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I appreciate your honesty Jason. You're not the only one that has had this struggle! But yes, lust, materialism and pride! Such things blind a person and put up a barrier.

[performedge 0]

Interesting.  I think ID is really as far as education will go though.  Unless we have a Holy Ghost revival in this nation. 

 

Are any of these papers online?

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Not yet, many have been submitted for publication in the past and been denied by some of the main evo journals. These papers will be published though in an official scientific manner and will be available I assume in early June. I am sure they will make them readily available.

[jason777 1]

Not yet,  many have been submitted for publication in the past and been denied by some of the main evo journals.  These papers will be published though in an official scientific manner and will be available I assume in early June.  I am sure they will make them readily available.

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Anymore, we don't need creationists papers to support creation; The mainstream scientific research seems to be sufficent.

 

Have you read this one yet.

 

 

http://www.evolutionfairytale.com/forum/in...indpost&p=66600

 

 

 

Enjoy.

[Spectre 0]

Anymore, we don't need creationists papers to support creation; The mainstream scientific research seems to be sufficent.

 

Have you read this one yet.

http://www.evolutionfairytale.com/forum/in...indpost&p=66600

Enjoy.

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The funny thing is, I was debating a talkorigins.org atheist who was trying to make the argument that the genome has no limit as to how much it can mutate. I showed him several secular articles that disagreed with his assertion and he skipped the article and replied to everything else. Needless to say after a couple of more posts between he and I he was out of answers and tried calling another talkorigins buddy into the debate but was quickly brought into a corner as well.

[Bruce V. 34]

Anymore, we don't need creationists papers to support creation; The mainstream scientific research seems to be sufficent.

 

Have you read this one yet.

http://www.evolutionfairytale.com/forum/in...indpost&p=66600

Enjoy.

67985[/snapback]

I just came across this article it sounds like it came from a Creationist publication.

 

 

The "lowly" worms belong to two large groups called Xenoturbella and Acoelomorphaand are no strangers to uncertainty, as zoologists have long debated how to classify the organisms. The acoelomorphs, for instance, were reclassified in the 1990s as an early branch of evolution and have been considered at the base of the family tree for bilateral organisms (those with a right and left side, which make up most of Earth's animals).

 

"We can no longer consider the acoelomorphs as an intermediate between simple groups such as jellyfish and the rest of the animals," said researcher Max Telford of the Department of Genetics, Evolution and Environment, University College London. "This means that we have no living representative of this stage of evolution: the missing link has gone missing." 

[Spectre 0]

Anymore, we don't need creationists papers to support creation; The mainstream scientific research seems to be sufficent.

 

Have you read this one yet.

http://www.evolutionfairytale.com/forum/in...indpost&p=66600

Enjoy.

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I just wanted to say that I did get in touch with Joseph Bozorgmehr and he gave me the full copy of the paper that he published.

 

If anyone wants the full publication send me a private message and I will help you get a copy. I'll have to have you email Joe for permission.

[performedge 0]

But I just wanted you all to know that a historical event is coming soon at a major university within the next six months.  (some insider information).  A substantial number of papers will be presented, all peer reviewed, and all challenging neo Darwin theory.  The evidence is now shifting at the micro level, and the science community is going to have to deal with it.  This event will probably be newsworthy and will eventually be the beginning of the end of neo-Darwinianism.

 

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For those of you involved in other forums, keep an eye out for the first week in June. A science symposium at a major university! All targeted against neo-Darwinism. Oh my, what wiill they do!

[jason 18]

For those of you involved in other forums, keep an eye out for the first week in June.  A science symposium at a major university!  All targeted against neo-Darwinism.  Oh my, what wiill they do!

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i thought creationism was junk science

 

i guess not.

[roohif 1]

It's now the first week of June. Can you post an update please?

[Spectre 0]

It's now the first week of June. Can you post an update please?

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Good question, I was trying to search through google for such conventions but I have not found any results at all.

[performedge 0]

Good question, I was trying to search through google for such conventions but I have not found any results at all.

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Yes, sorry guys.

 

The place: Cornell University

What? A science symposium

Topic: Biological Information New Perspectives.

Date: May31st - June 2 2011

 

This was an invitation only event to prevent the media hype and evolutionist disrupters at bay. It was strictly science and not creation science. Twenty peer reviewed papers were presented and are in the process of being published now. All papers in some way shape or form present serious problems and even potential falsifications of the neo-Darwinian theory. The science community will be unaware of these papers until they are fully published in a scientific syposium book as is the usual procedure.

 

I have been asked not to present substantial information regarding this event until the publication is released. I don't know when, but expect 3-6 months. I have copies of all the abstracts and they are brutal regarding evidence against neo-Darwinian theory. Once released, the science community will for the first time have to deal wilth real contrary evidence. And it will open the doors for future symposiums where the scientific journals don't control the publications and peer review process. You will recognize several of the names of presenters. I will have access to all of these papers in the future, and I will make them available as soon as I can.

 

Sorry for the vagueness, but you all know the forces that work against such events. It looks like this was a success, and it opens many doors for the truth of an intelligent designer to be a real scientific topic that must be dealt with.

[jason777 1]

Yes, sorry guys.

 

The place:  Cornell University

What?  A science symposium

Topic:  Biological Information New Perspectives.

Date:  May31st - June 2 2011

 

This was an invitation only event to prevent the media hype and evolutionist disrupters at bay.  It was strictly science and not creation science.  Twenty peer reviewed papers were presented and are in the process of being published now.  All papers in some way shape or form present serious problems and even potential falsifications of the neo-Darwinian theory.  The science community will be unaware of these papers until they are fully published in a scientific syposium book as is the usual procedure. 

 

I have been asked not to present substantial information regarding this event until the publication is released.  I don't know when, but expect 3-6 months.  I have copies of all the abstracts and they are brutal regarding evidence against neo-Darwinian theory.  Once released, the science community will for the first time have to deal wilth real contrary evidence.  And it will open the doors for future symposiums where the scientific journals don't control the publications and peer review process.  You will recognize several of the names of presenters.  I will have access to all of these papers in the future, and I will make them available as soon as I can.

 

Sorry for the vagueness, but you all know the forces  that work against such events.  It looks like this was a success, and it opens many doors for the truth of an intelligent designer to be a real scientific topic that must be dealt with.

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Thanks. I'm looking forward to it.

[Spectre 0]

Thanks for the update, I was hoping that this wouldn't just fall away.

[performedge 0]

Confirmation

 

http://crev.info/index.php/content/biological_information_symposium_a_success